Post by Marc Kaden Ridgeway on May 9, 2010 7:45:48 GMT -5
A Tale of Two Ronin: A Comparative Review
Review by Marc Kaden Ridgeway------------------------9 May 2010
A while back there was a nasty ( and I do mean NASTY) debate on SBG about some Ronin Katana models with a hamonesque pattern on the ha. Funny how that little ghost-hamon seemed to bring out the worst in some people.
I knew right away I wanted to test one of those models. With some help from Chris of Ronin, I was able to do a comparison of the models both with and without the ghost-hamon.
This is not a first impression review. I have had these swords for months and cut a lot with them. I have thrust at plywood and tires, cut bamboo and bottles, and let my 13 year old son do the same. This was truly a destructive test... thing is , we didnt manage to destroy them through heavy use and moderate abuse... and I wasnt going to do it intentionally.
It should be noted that all photos were taken after 3 months of hard use...
Specifications:
#2 (Butterfly Tsuba)
Nagasa : 27 inches
Weight: 2.63 lbs
Tsuka: 10 inches
Motohaba: 1.2 inches
Sakihaba : 1 inch
Motokasane: @ 7mm
Sakikasane : @5.5mm
POB : 5 inches from tsuba
#5 (Sukashi Tsuba)
Nagasa : 27 inches
Weight: 2.67 lbs
Tsuka: 10 inches
Motohaba: 1.2 inches
Sakihaba : 1 inch
Motokasane: @ 7mm
Sakikasane : @5.5mm
POB : 5 inches from tsuba
Aesthetics: Fit & Finish[/b][/u][/color]
I will speak first of the common elements shared by the two models, then elaborate on the couple of differences.
Sugata is shinogi zukuri with chu-kissaki. The ji are polished to a satin finish, while the shinogi-ji sport a mirror finish.
The yokote are crosspolished.
The habaki are filed and grooved brass, a huge improvement over the old standard habaki. The seppa are also brass, and key-fret, not cheap stamped bits.
The 10" tsuka are wrapped in black silk ito above creamy white same panels. The brass menuki are dragons and the tsuka are pinned to the nakago by two mekugi. The fittings are smooth , blackened iron, and imho tasteful. The tsuka length with fittings is 11.25 inches. Both the kashira and the kurigata sport blackened shitodome.
The saya are black laqured with buffalo horn kojiri, kurigata and koiguchi.
The #5 model sports lustrous brown horn elements, while they are black on the #2. The high-grade sageo on the #5 is black and white checked, where the #2 is black.
The #5 has a sukashi tsuba and the #2 has a peirced butterfly design.
Handling Characteristics
There is no discernable difference in the handling between the two.
These katana handle very well. With the 5 inch POB they are very lively and responsive.
The waisted , well shaped tsuka makes for a great interface and the tight ito makes for a sure and tactile grip.
All in all these katana handle as well as any I've used with comparable cutting performance.
Cutting
Cutting is really the main purpose of these swords, and as such is really the main thrust (pardon the pun) of this review.
My son and I did LOTS of cutting. Heavy targets , light targets ... we cut 6 inch bamboo so hard the sword bounced off... we cut bottles and pool-noodles afterwards.
The swords cut very well , and no damage was sustaind to the ha of the swords, even on some very hard old growth bamboo.
I have two short videos of about 16 total minutes of footage...
Enjoy.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fTDAMfDPWc
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPj3_R6YUNQ
The Good, The Bad & The Ugly
This is my critical section where I trot out all the good things and the little imperfections about swords.
There are many good things to say about the Dojo Pro models.
Decent polish, good balance, nice cutters, well wrapped, decent hardware, good tsuka shaping, lots of little details.
The bad : one of the saya had a lot of wax in it that continues to get all over the blade. One of the saya was loose, however this is easily fixed. The shinogi was a tad uneven on a very short section of blade #2 .
Conclusion
Both swords underwent several months of heavy use and moderate abuse. The swords were asked to perform cutting tasks beyond what they are designed for, and did so well.
Rock hard bamboo did no damage to the ha on either sword, neither the ghost-hamon one (#5) nor the regular one.
The #2 (non hamonesque ) model did take a slight set on an arm sized piece of bamboo when a 13 year old made a bad cut...
The #5 model took a very slight burr in the kissaki tip from thrusting through plywood.
These damages are negligable , and inconsequential considering the use they were put to.
I conclude that the hamonesque blades are no less resilent than their non-ghosty counterparts.
Further, it is my opinion, that The Ronin Katana Dojo Pro models outclass most of their price-range competitors. Of all the sub $300 katana I have used... and thats many many many... only Hanwei and Dynasty Forge come close. RK in my opinion edges out Hanwei by the tsuka shaping alone... and their only real competitor in the price range is the Dynasty Forge musha.
I highly reccomend Ronin Katana Dojo Pro to anyone in the market for a tough, well built sub $300 katana with attention to many small details.
Thanks for reading
Review by Marc Kaden Ridgeway------------------------9 May 2010
A while back there was a nasty ( and I do mean NASTY) debate on SBG about some Ronin Katana models with a hamonesque pattern on the ha. Funny how that little ghost-hamon seemed to bring out the worst in some people.
I knew right away I wanted to test one of those models. With some help from Chris of Ronin, I was able to do a comparison of the models both with and without the ghost-hamon.
This is not a first impression review. I have had these swords for months and cut a lot with them. I have thrust at plywood and tires, cut bamboo and bottles, and let my 13 year old son do the same. This was truly a destructive test... thing is , we didnt manage to destroy them through heavy use and moderate abuse... and I wasnt going to do it intentionally.
It should be noted that all photos were taken after 3 months of hard use...
Specifications:
#2 (Butterfly Tsuba)
Nagasa : 27 inches
Weight: 2.63 lbs
Tsuka: 10 inches
Motohaba: 1.2 inches
Sakihaba : 1 inch
Motokasane: @ 7mm
Sakikasane : @5.5mm
POB : 5 inches from tsuba
#5 (Sukashi Tsuba)
Nagasa : 27 inches
Weight: 2.67 lbs
Tsuka: 10 inches
Motohaba: 1.2 inches
Sakihaba : 1 inch
Motokasane: @ 7mm
Sakikasane : @5.5mm
POB : 5 inches from tsuba
Aesthetics: Fit & Finish[/b][/u][/color]
I will speak first of the common elements shared by the two models, then elaborate on the couple of differences.
Sugata is shinogi zukuri with chu-kissaki. The ji are polished to a satin finish, while the shinogi-ji sport a mirror finish.
The yokote are crosspolished.
The habaki are filed and grooved brass, a huge improvement over the old standard habaki. The seppa are also brass, and key-fret, not cheap stamped bits.
The 10" tsuka are wrapped in black silk ito above creamy white same panels. The brass menuki are dragons and the tsuka are pinned to the nakago by two mekugi. The fittings are smooth , blackened iron, and imho tasteful. The tsuka length with fittings is 11.25 inches. Both the kashira and the kurigata sport blackened shitodome.
The saya are black laqured with buffalo horn kojiri, kurigata and koiguchi.
The #5 model sports lustrous brown horn elements, while they are black on the #2. The high-grade sageo on the #5 is black and white checked, where the #2 is black.
The #5 has a sukashi tsuba and the #2 has a peirced butterfly design.
Handling Characteristics
There is no discernable difference in the handling between the two.
These katana handle very well. With the 5 inch POB they are very lively and responsive.
The waisted , well shaped tsuka makes for a great interface and the tight ito makes for a sure and tactile grip.
All in all these katana handle as well as any I've used with comparable cutting performance.
Cutting
Cutting is really the main purpose of these swords, and as such is really the main thrust (pardon the pun) of this review.
My son and I did LOTS of cutting. Heavy targets , light targets ... we cut 6 inch bamboo so hard the sword bounced off... we cut bottles and pool-noodles afterwards.
The swords cut very well , and no damage was sustaind to the ha of the swords, even on some very hard old growth bamboo.
I have two short videos of about 16 total minutes of footage...
Enjoy.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fTDAMfDPWc
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPj3_R6YUNQ
The Good, The Bad & The Ugly
This is my critical section where I trot out all the good things and the little imperfections about swords.
There are many good things to say about the Dojo Pro models.
Decent polish, good balance, nice cutters, well wrapped, decent hardware, good tsuka shaping, lots of little details.
The bad : one of the saya had a lot of wax in it that continues to get all over the blade. One of the saya was loose, however this is easily fixed. The shinogi was a tad uneven on a very short section of blade #2 .
Conclusion
Both swords underwent several months of heavy use and moderate abuse. The swords were asked to perform cutting tasks beyond what they are designed for, and did so well.
Rock hard bamboo did no damage to the ha on either sword, neither the ghost-hamon one (#5) nor the regular one.
The #2 (non hamonesque ) model did take a slight set on an arm sized piece of bamboo when a 13 year old made a bad cut...
The #5 model took a very slight burr in the kissaki tip from thrusting through plywood.
These damages are negligable , and inconsequential considering the use they were put to.
I conclude that the hamonesque blades are no less resilent than their non-ghosty counterparts.
Further, it is my opinion, that The Ronin Katana Dojo Pro models outclass most of their price-range competitors. Of all the sub $300 katana I have used... and thats many many many... only Hanwei and Dynasty Forge come close. RK in my opinion edges out Hanwei by the tsuka shaping alone... and their only real competitor in the price range is the Dynasty Forge musha.
I highly reccomend Ronin Katana Dojo Pro to anyone in the market for a tough, well built sub $300 katana with attention to many small details.
Thanks for reading